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Scenic Route
Life's one helluva ride — why not enjoy the view?
The Scenic Route Podcast is your audio chill pill, serving up mindset shifts, laughs, and 'aha!' moments that fuel your soul and your wallet.
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Cosmic Clarity: Empower Yourself with Astrology feat. Laura Ordile
Ever wondered how your star chart could guide your personal growth? Join us as Laura Ordile, a hypnotherapy master and intuitive life coach, reveals how astrology can be a powerful tool for self-discovery. Embark on a cosmic journey through the zodiac, learning to harness the strengths of your astrological sign.
From the fiery confidence of an Aries to the empathetic nature of a Cancer, Laura shares wisdom on living with authenticity and intention. The stars can guide us, but understanding their influence empowers us to embrace our true selves.
In this episode, we cover:
- Understanding the strengths of your astrological sign
- Navigating the reflective pause of Mercury Retrograde and the Progressed Moon
- Finding calm during slowdowns and anticipating new emotional phases
- Identifying and embracing your current progressed phase
- The impact of Pluto shifting into Aquarius on personal and collective energies
- Balancing grounding and adaptability in times of change
- Aligning your life with the rhythms of the universe
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Laura Ordeal, a master in hypnotherapy, specializes in guiding individuals to transformative life changes. Certified in neurolinguistic programming and life coaching, she leverages her intuitive abilities to bring clients to their happiest, most successful selves. As a certified color coach, astrologist and infinite possibilities trainer, laura incorporates the power of the subconscious into her approach to personal growth. Based in Montana, usa, she finds joy in a scenic countryside and cherishes moment with her family and friends. Laura, welcome to the Scenic Route podcast. How are you?
Laura Ordile:I'm well. Thank you, I'm glad to be here.
Jennifer Walter:Yes, me too. I'm really excited because this season and the past couple of episodes we've talked a lot about finding your own path, and this is also what the scenic route basically is all about, and we had a lot of like how we can tune into our inner voice and how we also can read how grieving is a part of finding your path and the transformation that comes with it. And today I'm really excited to look into a tool astrology as a way of make, adding meaning to things and lives, and less as a oh you have, if you I don't know if your sun sign is this and that, like we don't want to use too many boxes and labels, but rather see it as opportunities to deepen our understanding and why certain things are just the way they are Right. Or how do you approach astrology in your daily life? How?
Laura Ordile:do I approach it? Well, I used to. It was funny because, you know, I kind of grew up with a lot of people that I love to look at my horoscope and all of that, and I didn't really know what it meant to be. I'm a Gemini and my sun sign which is what most people will tell you, and this or man or they'll know what they call the big three. You know their sun, moon and rising. But what I often talk about with people is that it's a lot like baking a cake. You know, when you think that you have, oh, I got my sun sign, you know, I know it's like, well, when you're baking the cake and you've got flour, it's not exactly a chocolate cake, you know, it's just the flour. What a kind idea.
Laura Ordile:Yes, and so it's that combination of all the other things involved in your chart that make you who you are and kind of influence the way that you live, whether it's how you think, how you feel emotionally, how you're going to be in the world, and things like that someone. I love it because it can be so affirming for people and so useful to see who they really are and that they came into the world with all the things in a way that doesn't have to be detrimental to them. We all lean into ourselves in one way or another. We all lean into certain aspects. But if you look at it and you go, maybe all your life you were told you're too sensitive, you're too sensitive or you're too much. You're too much, you know you got you need to chill down, Right, and so people kind of get that part of them kind of established in their thoughts and the way that they move in the world. Yeah, and so then you try to back off of oh okay, I need to maybe back off.
Jennifer Walter:It becomes ingrained in your subconscious and you're just is a filter that you approach things. If you're always like oh, I'm too much, you're always kind of like dialing yourself down. Yeah, or, in the worst case, doubt, doubting yourself and completely, yeah, giving up on yourself yeah, or you're exploding into being so much of that that it just doesn't matter.
Laura Ordile:You know, it's like you just kind of go one direction or the other and yeah, and I love to be able to step in and go. You know what? You have a lot of fire in your chart. You are meant to be out there in front being the bold one, being the warrior, the pioneer. You need to say the things that need to be said. You need to be the one that's blunt. You need to bring the fire to us so that the rest of us can kind of light our way. You are lighting a way for us and showing us, and so don't let anyone dim that in you.
Laura Ordile:It's important to use that in the best possible way. Does that mean you go, you know, balls to the wall with it? No, that means that you use it to the benefit of you and everyone around you. And when I do a chart, that's how I talk to people about it, that I explain here's how you use that, because sometimes people will go oh yeah, that's kind of have a hard time with that.
Laura Ordile:That's something I'm always trying to manage or work on, and I help them to say here's how you can do that. Here's how you manage that in a way that brings out the best parts of it in your life and people don't understand why. You know, we have the four elements in astrology. Really tell you a lot about the people that are in that and there's groups in each one, but with fire they are the ones that are going to be bold and speak and be out there and fiery and spicy and Aries they're going to often be the ones that need to do for themselves and kind of push forward and be an individual and be that person that's up front and they're I mean, they're the ram. You know they're going to ram things through and when people look at that, instead of understanding that, that's who they are and that's a part of them and that's a natural ability, you can help them and that is a good thing, right, because especially when you grow up as a woman, it's not necessarily something to be like.
Jennifer Walter:Oh yes, let's be the ramp up, let's be the wrecking ball to like, push in.
Laura Ordile:Well, but it is. It does because it opens. It's being that pioneer, it's opening the door for things, opening the way for others to follow through, and so it is incredibly important. It is what's there, and when someone outside of you can look and go, oh okay, I get it, I get that energy, then they don't attack you or get so upset with it. They're like, oh, there's that energy. You can do that for your kids. When you see your kids and you look at your kids' hearts and things, you can look in and help them manage the energy and move into the energy that they have a lot of and that they can work with in a way that guides them, and so you're not telling them you're too much calm down all the time. It's like, ooh, okay, we need to, let's go for a walk or let's get that energy moving.
Jennifer Walter:You have other tools than just shaming them.
Laura Ordile:Yeah, give them tools to help with that energy, because fires signs find rest in movement. They, if they sit around and they're, then they're like it feels like they get turned into a giant slug, you know. It just is very uncomfortable for them and so when they're moving and doing, it's like, oh, okay, the energy's opening up, I can feel like I'm okay again, I can, can breathe again, I can read all of that.
Jennifer Walter:How do the other? So we said all signs are part of one of the four elements. So curious that you met. So how do like? How does each of the elements get rest? We said fire finds rest through movement. What about air, fire, earth and water?
Laura Ordile:Right, with air air people. They're the ones that are always up in their head. They're always got the idea. They're probably going to interrupt you in conversation. They're going to be the one that hops to 17 different things and they're starting this and they're doing that. They're reading seven books and they're kind of what some people would call scattered. You know they're scattered, but they are innovators. They are the ones that are going to bring the ideas into the world and they are the ones that are communicators. They're the podcasters, they're the journalers, they're the writers, guilty as charged, and so they have that energy. And so, for the funny thing with air signs, they will talk about emotions all day long. I'll tell you all about it, but they don't want to feel them. They don't want to take the time, get out and feel them.
Jennifer Walter:I feel my therapist should like talk, which should have talked to you before she started like having me in therapy.
Laura Ordile:Yeah, the person that I learned astrology from is a psychotherapist that's part of it, and she would use charts in the work that she did with people. Very smart, yeah, and so with air signs, you know when they're doing that. What they don't realize is that it's super easy for any sign for anyone to actually process and feel emotions. The thing that gets problemed is people think you have to sit and take time and really see what's there and really feel it out. Oh, my goodness, I'm going to have to experience this and I might cry or I might be angry or I don't know what's going to happen. But it's not true.
Laura Ordile:What you really have to do is acknowledge and become aware of the feeling that's there, which means, as long as it took me to say that, that's how long you need to spend in that energy, in that emotion. Acknowledge it, let it flow through you and move out. Don't hold it, don't keep it here. That's when you get into trouble, is when you try to hold things and not let them flow through you. Yeah, so to take that moment and allow that energy to kind of flow through is a is a wonderful thing to do.
Laura Ordile:I mean, yeah, it is, and it's super simple. Will that come back. It might, but you take another minute and you acknowledge and come aware. Sometimes, once you come into that awareness of it, it kind of goes in the corner and it's like you know, I called that little part of me like clyde and it's like go have a burger and a beer in the corner. Clyde, it's going to be okay. If you need to come back and talk to me later, we'll have you know, we'll do that later but, and how do we find rest then like, if, how do we as air sign as air?
Laura Ordile:the finder has to feel good is really to allow those to do the things that just allow you to find joy, no matter what anybody says about you doing that.
Laura Ordile:Socials it might mean doing a podcast, it might mean sitting and having a conversation or journaling, whatever it is that allows you to kind of get the thoughts wherever you want to be or to rest the thoughts. A lot of them will kind of find the time to watch TV, listen to a book, do something like that. Sometimes, when they're doing it depends on what else you've got going on in your chart, but if you've got a lot of air going on, it's going to be a lot of communication or a lot of brief moments of hopping in here. Hopping in here, hopping in here because that's a natural thing for you to do and people sometimes get annoyed where you just you know, when you clean house, you're not going to be the person that starts over here and does this and goes all the way through. You're going to start here and be like, okay, I'm bored with that, I need to go over here you don't remember the back closets and yeah and and and you're gonna that's okay, know that that's okay.
Laura Ordile:Yeah, do it in the way that you want to do it so that it does feel good and right, and accept that you're not doing it wrong. That's the most important thing, because then you can find rest in using that energy. You can find feeling good because you did six different things today. Yeah, they all were joyful to you. Yeah, and it doesn't matter what it is to anyone else, and it doesn't matter if they were. You know, you went over. It doesn't need to make sense.
Jennifer Walter:It doesn't have to make sense In a way. Yeah.
Laura Ordile:Anything, but it might be making a phone call to someone you know allowing it?
Jennifer Walter:How do water signs and our signs Actually water signs are.
Laura Ordile:They're the ones that get accused of being too emotional, too sensitive, too much. Oh my God, scorpios gets such a bad rap. They get told you're so intense, you're so much, you're, you know, and, oh my goodness, and you? They'll take you down deep into conversation like boom you and you're going whoa, where did that come from? Because that's the important conversation.
Laura Ordile:To a Scorpio, no time for small talk. No time for small talk. They're into that underflow of life, all of the stuff that makes life happen. I love it. Yeah, if you've ever seen a picture of like underwater, that's really clear and beautiful. Often the paintings that they make, you know, with you can see above and below and they're both really clear. That's what the water sign says, especially Scorpio's sea. They see that in such clarity. They see life and death and all of that, and they want to share it with us. And so sometimes for those of us up on the top that are looking down in the water going, that's kind of murky. I don't know. You know they try to drag us down really quickly and we're like I can't breathe Too fast. But when you do realize that that's where they're at and that's what's important to them.
Laura Ordile:They're great detectives. They will get all the little information out of people. But it's so amazing and for water signs they carry such emotion so oftentimes. I'll start with Scorpio real quick. But with Scorpio, if you think about the emotional realm of what's going on inside of a Scorpio, if you've had a day at the beach and you've been in the waves and you're running and tumbling around in the waves and you're getting beat up and you kind of learn to dive under, to ride a min, to notice, well, they spend their life in the waves, in that emotional turning of things, while the rest of us are over on the lazy river. What's the problem? What's going?
Jennifer Walter:on. You know, like how did we have a weird world with the waves?
Laura Ordile:yeah, yeah, we, we get a few bumps there in there, but and and they're trying to like, hold themselves at a, at an even keel in those big waves. That's what it's like for them. So, when you can understand that they don't become so intense or so weird, they become this amazing person that you can have this in-depth conversation. Cancer are beautiful. They have such a heart and they will be the one. They will be the one. That here's a little interesting thing. I'm going to throw a little side thing in here for a minute. They will say I'm so empathic, I'm so I take, you know, I feel everything for everyone.
Laura Ordile:A lot of water signs will, and they are, and they are to a point, yes, but what they really are most of the time is what's called sympathetic. That means they're taking everything on and not managing it in a way that it's meant to work for them. That is a true empath, someone who manages the energy and uses it in a way as a caretaker. You want someone who you know the doctor that comes in and feels the way to have a conversation with you knows maybe what you're really upset about or what your concerns are. That is an empathic conversation right there, and that's what water signs can do for us. They can show us how beautiful emotions are and literally they will feel best and rest in water.
Laura Ordile:In water, putting your feet in water, water is a great channeler of emotion. So if anyone I express it to anyone if you're having struggles with emotions in any way, you either are too emotional or you can't express your emotions in some way. You're stuck. Get in water, get in your bathtub. Get in your bathtub. Add some salt, add whatever you want, but get in water. Go, put your feet in the creek, go dive into a pool, wherever you can find water. Get in water and let it channel those emotions for you, let it help to flow the energy of the flow of those emotions and the Pisces in there.
Laura Ordile:They're our dreamers, our drifters. They're the ones that are going to go into the mystical, magical world and talk about all of this stuff and kind of go, you know, on the other side, let's talk about that, probably with a Scorpio, but they're going to have all that conversation. That's there. And then, when you dive into our earth signs oh my goodness. These are the ones that, probably when they were younger, were told don't be so bossy. First of all, don't be so bossy and hurry up. You're so slow. You need to hurry up and get stuff done.
Jennifer Walter:Yeah, because, yeah, I think of my one friend and, yeah, she's an earth sign.
Laura Ordile:I have one of my best friends is a tourist and she, bless her heart, will always be late. Oh, that's her part, yeah, yeah, and. But she's, and she will be the one that will start the story two months ago to tell you about what happened two hours ago. But you have to understand. You know where she's coming from and she will tell you everything.
Laura Ordile:But there are people who show us how important earth is. They will be the ones that can I mean they probably grow plants like crazy, you know, because they literally have that earth energy. They bring about the manifestation in the world for us. They show us the importance of security, of money, of taking your time and living in the luxury that you want in your life. Taurus, they might take their time and be slow in things and be like ooh, okay, but they will have something beautiful that makes them feel good and wonderful and show you how amazing that feels in your life.
Laura Ordile:The Capricorns they are leaders. They will always think that are right and they will tell you this is what you should do and this is how you should do it. But they are amazing leaders and so when they use that energy in the right way, it produces things that are incredible. In the right way, it produces things that are incredible and they are good at it, very good at it. Virgos, little Virgos. They will, unfortunately, beat themselves up a lot and really be the perfectionists, but they are dang good at putting systems into play. Oh yeah, systems into play. Oh yeah, very good at putting systems into play. And they will be the ones that have all the checklists and they want that checklist.
Jennifer Walter:And they will be the ones that. Yeah, my Virgo friends. Yeah, the checklist is sure there.
Laura Ordile:Yeah, and they show us, they help us to run our systems, to put a better system into place and do that. And so you know, like, going through all of them it's so many, you know, like in the air signs too I didn't even touch on like the Libra, libra, oh my goodness, they're so cute. They will be the ones that they're like you really want to be in a relationship, I really want to be in a relationship. And then they get in a relationship and they're like I really want to be in a relationship, I really want to be in a relationship. And then they get in a relationship and they're like oh my God, I need a long time, I really need some long time. And so they go back and forth.
Laura Ordile:But the beauty is Libra is like one of the like exalted positions of life for us, because the biggest life lesson, the biggest thing for us, because the biggest life lesson, the biggest thing for us always is relationship. We have relationships with everything with our home, with the world, with ourselves, with dog, with whatever it is. So it's not just people, relationships, relationships of everything. And Libra shows us and is meant to explore the back and forth of being in that relationship, with whatever it is and then bringing it back to who we are in the wholeness of our channel and that we can be both.
Jennifer Walter:We can be whole and right and be in any relationship Okay, and kind of like swing between extremes and like coming back to that there the infinity sign.
Laura Ordile:We're just traveling back and forth, yeah, and connecting on both ends. We need time alone and we need time in relationships, and some people will say, I don't like people I don't like, but you still, I don't care who you are, you need to have connection in some way, yeah, with other life yeah, even if you don't want, you are in connection with yourself, with your surroundings.
Jennifer Walter:I mean, even if and the Aquarians.
Laura Ordile:The Aquarians, who are the other sign. They are weird and wild ones. They are the ones that will fly the freak flag. They will be the one that dives into all the stuff. They're networkers. They kind of jump back.
Jennifer Walter:Yeah, I mean. No wonder, like the 70s were the age of Aquarius, I agree.
Laura Ordile:They're the ones that kind of want to bring everybody together, save the Earth, take care of everything. They're also incredibly science-oriented, like all of our gadgets. They're genius. They will want all of the little gadgets and the connection to, because it opens up the world. Yeah, I know this right here opens up the world. So they're going to love that and they're going to be really good at that and they're going to be in some form connected to those things at a really intense, amazing level.
Jennifer Walter:I love how you speak of all the signs. It's so cute. I love it. You're champion, all of them, it's I mean, yes, rightly so. Rightly so right.
Laura Ordile:Like not there's no one that's better or worse off than the other, like they're all great no, they're all amazing and that's what I try to show someone and you know we're in the talk about rest for the, for the um, for the earth's side. It is again absolutely connecting with the earth, like barefoot Gardening. There's an actual thing called earthing and it is connecting physically with our earth, which we don't get to do as often anymore today. We work inside, we work in buildings, we live, we sleep on a bed, you know, we wear shoes that are not natural fibers and so we don't connect. But what happens is when you connect with it, it changes the physicality of your body. It changes at a level that eliminates, like a lot of things in your body and processes, eliminates inflammation, does all these amazing things. So we're meant to do that, to have that connection with our earth. It's really important.
Laura Ordile:Who did I not talk about? I guess I can talk a little bit about the fire signs. The Aries I talked about, leos, are amazing. They're so cute, they make me laugh. They're so cute, they make me laugh.
Laura Ordile:They will be the ones that go, oh, look at me, look at me. And then they'll hide and go oh wait, don't look at me. No, you know, they want to feel good in the presentations of themselves. They're also the ones that entertain us often, the ones that will make us laugh, that will have that kind of fun connection and the ability to want to play and have joy out there and take the risk. They will be the risk takers out there that say, oh, let's do this and want to have the romance of things in play because it's beautiful and it's fun and they want to have fun and that's so much.
Laura Ordile:I have a Leo friend and it is about you know how does her hair look and you know how's her makeup and all that and she's so cute. But then it'll be like you know she doesn't want the attention. It's okay. It's okay to want the attention and to put yourself out there just like a lion, you know, with the mane of hair and everything out there, being beautiful. And then there's the Sagittarians, and the Sagittarians, the fire there. They will be the ones that will show us the big picture in life and they are the seekers of that next level, the higher education of the philosophers out there, and so they might have a little issue with what truth is. They'll kind of fit it to. You know they're an aridanic. So it is kind of a thing to come into your truth with the Sagittarians and know that it's okay to speak your truth, it's okay to be on your truth and to really put that forward. So I think I got everybody.
Jennifer Walter:What are some common misconceptions about astrology that I don't know? Most people get wrong.
Laura Ordile:Well, and then, unfortunately, because of the way sometimes people do astrology or share astrology, I think it's that it's so complicated, you know it's too complicated, or it's all woo, woo, it's just nothing, it's not scientific or that.
Jennifer Walter:Yeah, and it is really scientific.
Laura Ordile:It's been around for a long time and and as you look at it in the way that it is done, you'll find the incredibleness of it.
Laura Ordile:When I look at a chart, I'm looking at it and it's going to be like, ok, that's there, that's there. I can pinpoint certain things and pinpoint certain times in your life. You know, anytime around 28 to 29 years old and this I will go into a reading with people and this is the part I will go right here to this year and say something big, a big change in your life happened here in your life, happened here. It would have been everything fell apart, everything was horrible, or something wonderful happened you got married, you had a kid, you graduated, you had a big move, something like that and they will tell me, yes, yeah, oh yeah, this happened. Might have been when they were 28, might have been closer to 30, but right in there. And what that is is it's a Saturn return. And when I get into astrology speak which is one of the things that's wrong with sometimes astrology when they're saying, well, saturn is, you know, conjunct this and against that, and it's it's true.
Jennifer Walter:Yeah, that don't sound very complex, to be fair.
Laura Ordile:It's like what, What'd you say what? And I know most of it and I'm still going. What are you talking about? Yeah, quadrant two, something, something, and like, if you, say, oh, this one's really close to this one, and so they're kind of influencing each other, which, yes, I get.
Jennifer Walter:That tell me that, yeah, or they're like opposite each other.
Laura Ordile:I get that yeah, and but they're in conflict. You know they're pulling it. Yeah, get that too. And so you understand that. And that is the thing that people really need to look for in kind of having the conversation with someone if they're going to have their chart done, is what is that initial conversation like? How are they explaining or talking about things and and are they doing it in a way that's going to make sense to you? Now, help you, because it's a lot.
Laura Ordile:When I do a reading, it's a lot of information and, and as I was saying, like that saturn return, that's a big check-in for us in our life. We get a couple of them in life and when that happens, it's kind of uh like, kind of like the high school principal going hey, are you where you need to be? Are you doing what you need to be doing, or do we need to correct stuff right now and really lean into how you're supposed to be going forward now if you want things to go better in your life, and that's so it's telling us and showing us. You know, you mentioned, I think before we were on here. You said something about mercury, retrograde.
Jennifer Walter:Yeah, everybody freaks out about mercury. Oh God, yes, let's talk about mercury retrograde for a second. Why do we all freak out when it's mercury retrograde? Because everybody blames everything.
Laura Ordile:It's like oh my God, don't do that. You know your electronics are going to freak out everything. And it's like, actually, what Mercury retrograde is asking us to do is to slow the roll, slow it down a little bit. Mercury is all about our mind, it's how our mind works, and so it's saying take a moment and see what's going on. Think about it, for just a minute.
Jennifer Walter:Maybe not sign something right this second, but have a sleep on it.
Laura Ordile:Yeah, have a sleep on it. If it's good and right and everything's good and you've double checked it important that you double checked it go forward with it, do that thing, you know. But it is saying pay attention right now. Pay attention because we get so fast in our lives. It's almost like you know a little. You see little kids running downhill and you're like you just want them to slow down because you know in a minute they're going to tumble. Yeah, right, yeah.
Jennifer Walter:Yeah, I see my four-year-old Yep Happened.
Laura Ordile:That's what Mercury Retrograde is doing for us. It's saying whoa, slow down.
Jennifer Walter:So all the tech issues that we may or may not experience during Mercury Retrograde are actually a sign to slow you the fuck down because you're going too fast. Yeah, slow down, take a minute.
Laura Ordile:I love that and maybe step away for a second to clear your mind, to clear whatever it is that you need. Come back to it in a little bit. Yeah, it'll be okay, it'll still be there. And we have such a tendency to get, oh you know, up here and, oh my gosh, and is it always convenient when something happens electronically? No, usually not. But if you can find in yourself that moment to go, it's okay. Anyway, it's all right. You know, it's okay if we have to reschedule something. Or it's okay if I can't get on and scroll Facebook for 10 minutes or whatever right now, I can do it in 30 minutes or whatever it is. You know you find something else to redirect to until you can bring yourself back into the energy of okay, let's do this again, let's take our time, let's take a breath, let's do this so you're not tumbling down on yourself.
Jennifer Walter:Oh, yes, I love that. Yes, I think macro-retrograde is one of the biggest buzzwords. And then, obviously, when it comes to astrology, as you've said before, most people who are, at one point in their life, have looked into astrology will know like the their, um, their sun sign, their moon sign and they're rising. Yeah, right, so okay, is that is that something that where you, where you guess what people's, what people's like sun, moon rising are, or is it something like you're like no, not not doing that?
Laura Ordile:oh, I don't guess at anything. I might be really curious about something, but things we move into our own energies in ways that are so different. We might be shutting down our emotional self right now and not exhibiting where our moon is, because the moon is our emotional energy and so, or it might be that we're experiencing what I think is a wonderful guest and so fun is called the progressed moon, and what that is is that astrology has given us this beautiful thing that every 29 months, our emotional self moves into something a little bit different. Maybe your heart, your moon is in Gemini, so you're in an air sign. Well, right now, the progressed moon might be in Taurus, right, and so your heart. Even though you love to communicate, you love to do these things, you love to read and find 72 books, you might actually be moving into a space where it feels like I kind of feel like I want to, you know, just be in my home and redo my home a little and bring some beautiful things into my life, or just kind of I'm feeling a need to have a little more money around to make my heart feel okay, to feel good emotionally.
Laura Ordile:That's what that Taurus progress moon is going to give to you. It's going to give you the example of what it feels like to have a basis in Taurus. It's going to do that through all the signs. So it's giving you a gift of experiencing what it feels like to be in something else and what really is important to someone else's heart. And so when it's doing that, if you're ignoring it, it's going to get your attention. It's really fascinating. It always does one way or another. It will do it physically no-transcript good feeling good because you're taking the gift and using it in the way that the earth is wanting you to, and so it takes you through all these different things. Sometimes it can be uncomfortable, it can be difficult when your you know your, your progressman is maybe in a water sign and you're feeling like really emotional about stuff and family and and really wanting to be the caretaker. All of a sudden and you just this big heart and you want to do all these things. But you're being given a gift people are now curious.
Jennifer Walter:I was just like how, how do I find out where my progressed moon is at the moment? Right, you said you move through one each two, two and a half years. Yeah, two and a half years, 29 months.
Laura Ordile:yeah, yeah and um, actually I have. Uh, I think I sent over in that and if you don't have it now, make sure to get it to you. But on my website there's a freebie section and if you go in there there's a place that has it says natal and progress moon or something. It says something about that and that's a freebie in there and it will. It will actually show you there's a little video attached in there how to find your progressed moon online and how to go find that and do that. And then it also has a quick sheet, a little cheat sheet, that says when it's here and it gives two different examples, because we didn't get into the houses and stuff, but the houses are an influence in astrology as well.
Jennifer Walter:it kind of shows up in a little bit yeah, that would be my next question of how can we figure this?
Laura Ordile:out and influences. So it's like, okay, if your progressman is here and here, so maybe it's in um in taurus, but it's in the third house. Yeah, third house is Gemini. The relation is there, so you can kind of grasp that it's going to be that you are in that place of finding security, of rebuilding foundations, of doing those things. And because it's in the third house right now, flowing through there as well, you need to communicate about it. You need to communicate about it, you need to talk about it. You need to move through that with, with someone you know in some way. Whether you're writing it down, talking about or writing a book about it, I don't care, but communicate about that. So that's the influence, that kind of tops onto that. But that's, that's a free little thing that I put together. That I think is free.
Jennifer Walter:We will link it in the show notes for sure, because this is also I'm going to download right soon after we're going to finish. And I'm glad you mentioned the houses, because this is where I kind of struggle with putting the pieces together right. So, for example, I know my moon is in virgo and the fourth house so okay, I know virgo. We've said like perfecting analytical fourth house, like parents home, family foundations, okay, cool.
Laura Ordile:And now I'm kind of like how, how do I like look, so what that means is your, your, your emotion, your base emotion, like if you go back into a corner or there was an emergency or there was something going on, you're going to be the one who knows. Okay, and you're going to think practically about it. You're going to go, you, you know, we need this, we need this, let's do this, let's do this You're going to have your checklist Super in crisis mode.
Laura Ordile:Yes, Call 911. Get the Band-Aid, do this, do that, or you natural mode. So you're going to do that naturally. Your go-to emotionally is going to be practicality. It's going to go let's think about this practically, let's do this. And so you go there.
Laura Ordile:And then, when you bring in the influence of the fourth house, that's cancer, that's the emotional think about a cancer. They have that, that soft underbelly, right the crab with this protection that's out here and and that's definitely family focused, definitely family focused. And the caretaker. So you're going to be someone who, at heart, wants to help take care of people, but you want to give them a way to do it. It's like here's how you do that, here's how you care for yourself, here's the best way. Yeah, and they're always going to have that kind of underlying heart of taking care of those people closest to you. But you really want them to know that it's not all emotional stuff. There's things that you need to do to take care of yourself, there's things that have to be in play and you're going to show them. That's how you show love by doing some of that for them. Do you find yourself doing that? Would you express that that way, whether it's an actual family or someone you consider family.
Jennifer Walter:It's not actual family. I'm very much in well to some extent, yes, actual family, but also very much with chosen family.
Laura Ordile:Yeah, yeah, but that's the people that you feel close.
Jennifer Walter:Yeah, it doesn't have to be blood relation, right yeah?
Laura Ordile:yeah, it's the people right here that are within that little you know, hold them close to you and they're allowed kind of underneath in that little cell that you have and you're gonna, you're gonna, take care of them. Yeah, you're definitely gonna have a way for them to do that yeah, absolutely.
Jennifer Walter:And I also know, like, how, like the virgo is sometimes in like, let's look at this practically, yes, but sometimes it's almost kind of like it's in a in dispute with my son and rising, which are both gemini. So it's like, oh, with my Son and Rising, which are both Gemini. So it's like, oh, no, let's look at this practically. So I don't know. I don't know, it feels like Virgos coming in and shitting on the parade.
Laura Ordile:Yeah, because it's like you have these shoulds in yourself and that's how Virgos are should all over themselves all the time. I should be doing this, I should do that, I should, I should, I should, you know, and then it's not good enough and it needs to be perfect and that's not the way to do it. And and sometimes it is a struggle of of you know, they're not going to want to let go of things that are around them because you're not doing it right. You're not, and I gave you the way to do it and you're not doing it right, you know, and and so there's. It's an innate thing for them to sometimes be a little critical, but it's not like they're doing it, it's just that they're like trying to help.
Jennifer Walter:They're trying to tell you, here's our yes, I always have the best intentions at heart.
Laura Ordile:And all of that. Gemini is going to come in with all of these ideas and these ways for you to do that and for you know, and you've got one thing that's there is that with Gemini and with Virgo, is Mercury, you know, it rules both of them, yeah, and so it's very kind of back and forth, very flexible in things, very mercurial in the way that it will do things. So it might be that you set up a system and it's like OK, we need to switch that up, we need to change that a little bit, and so we switch that up, we need to change that a little bit, and so we'd switch that up a little bit, but always looking for the best way for things to be done, always looking for that.
Jennifer Walter:Okay, so it's, yeah. So can we say like we the signs are kind of like how we do certain things, like we have, like we have the fiery energy, or we have the balancing, the back and forth or the going deep, um, and the house kind of like where we're experienced all this, where we live it. Because, I don't know, I somehow think of like a tv with, like you know, back back in the days where you had to go, I mean, I know, when I was a kid, like first tv was like this you had to actually go to the tv and like switch the channels, like in the 80s, and I feel like I don't know, each house is like a channel, and then you see yourself acting in this like house on that channel or something like that. I don't know, that's what just came to my, because that the, the planet or the sign.
Laura Ordile:The sign is going to be that that foundation of you, know, that base layer, that's there, that that's kind of how it is in our life and the house is going to be. It is going to be kind of, maybe, how that's coming into play for us or or how that accents it. So if, if you're, if you are, oh, let's say, you know, your mind is in Aries okay, scorpio, so you have fire and water first of all, which some people would go ooh, how's that work? You know you've got fire and water. One of them is going to be messing up the other.
Laura Ordile:However, think about fire and water. They come together. They make steam Very powerful, very true, yes, and so it's how you use it. It's how you use your energy. So, if your mind is up there and it's quick and it's quick and it's quick, but it's sitting in the eighth house where it's like go deep, we're going to go deep, we're going to dive in, we're going to find all the things, we're going to swim down in this emotional realm of things.
Laura Ordile:It might be that you are the one that's going to go first and pioneer in a way that does go deep into something that does say you've never looked at it this way. Let's look at it this way, let's go in and dig that out a little bit. And it might be that you have to understand that your mind does start swimming around a little bit or does kind of go deep into some things and it goes down some of those little holes. It's just part of your natural process. It's going to be quick and move through these things and at the same time, it's going to be pulling you to go deeper. So that's where you're the one that goes okay, let's work together, let's do this together, create that steam. And I'm going to choose a few different things to go quick and deep into, and I'm going to do that and spend my time really in there. And that doesn't mean that I can't come back and go into this other one.
Laura Ordile:Yeah, absolutely Just to the side for the moment, because I need to be quick in what I'm doing. Right here, my brain is moving in that fire where I need to be crackling and moving in the energy, where I need to be crackling and moving in the energy, and so you know, you just have to go. Okay, when I do feel it pulling off into another place or something, it's like we're going to do that later, just like I was talking about Clyde a while ago. You know you kind of go okay, clyde, we'll come back to that. Right now we're moving, let's do this, you know, and so. But when you understand that that's what's happening, instead of getting frustrated with yourself, instead of going geez, here we go again, it's like oh, yeah, I know what that feels, like I'm going to kind of, I know what's going on, yeah, I know what's going on. And so it feels like, oh, yeah, and I can use that energy in this way, I'm going to redirect it to go this way.
Jennifer Walter:I love it. Yeah, we talked at the beginning of how astrology as a tool can help us to find our path and, from what we've talked before, I feel we have to. Before we end our beautiful conversation. We have to talk about the role of Saturn. Saturn is playing and helping us, figuring out our life's path, purpose or gift. So what can you tell us? So I know my Saturn? Saturn, I'm not not english, english is not my first language, so I have saturn. Saturn. There you go, thank you very much. Is in scorpio, in the sixth house, okay. So what I do with that, laura?
Laura Ordile:that means that it is going to be all about going deep in your life and it is going to be about learning to swim sometimes in those emotional realms in a way that you don't get drowned, that you don't get overwhelmed, that you don't allow that to happen, and to bring it in so you have earth and water right. They're pretty complementary so they can allow you to go to an emotional realm, to be in a space that allows others because you're going to understand at a level the emotional realm of most people and to be able to do that. And with the sixth house that's going to be bring that into use, put it into a system that you use to help people, put it into a way that it's not about perfection, it's not about that, but it might be. Virgo or sixth house is also around health and wellness and especially women's health. So it might be that it's about going deep into women's health, into health and wellness in general, in helping people to find that deep part of themselves in the path that they are going to take in life and when you really do live in that energy and not get overwhelmed or frustrated or, you know, get pissy and all of that stuff.
Laura Ordile:That's like. You know it's Scorpio, they have that little tail and they can strike out in a way that is like, and to find that, oh, I can do that, all right. Well, how do I navigate without really bringing that part into things, even though it's a part of me and it's not a bad part, it's just a part that might come out when I get overwhelmed, or I've been struggling in my own emotions for a while, or I'm under the water for too long and I haven't come up for a breath. You know, because we do need to come up for that breath and you can pull in that sixth house to ground it a little bit to go. How can I be useful in my community? Because it is there and it's like, how do I help people to find a plan that's going to help them to move in their own health and wellness in the way? So that's a big part of your life purpose. Do you feel that with yourself?
Jennifer Walter:It's very interesting, as I'm currently I don't want to say burned, because I do like fire, but I'm not actually like I'm in the process of doing a lot of things differently and process of doing a lot of things differently, and that means closing a lot of things down. So there is, there are other opportunities and more capacity before new things, and one of the new things is, yes, I will shift the way of how I move service from brand strategy to working more closely with the overall well-being of people. So, yes, I feel seen.
Laura Ordile:That's wonderful. You're moving right into the best energy of yourself and doing that. And I want to say just for a second, real quick, because we talked a lot about individual energies and those things. We're also, you know, the kind of universal energies that the transits are. It's called where the planets are now and now what's happening, and this change, big change there has, and one of those is that Pluto has shifted, and so it's very interesting. I find it so fun to see kind of how people are reacting to it.
Jennifer Walter:Oh yeah, I'm. I have massive to see kind of how people are reacting to it. Oh yeah, I'm massive, like yeah, big time.
Laura Ordile:Yeah, it's gone from this energy for years, so a lot of people have grown up or really been in the process of this energy. That was Capricorn that was get it done do the work.
Jennifer Walter:That was very much like the 90s, early 2000s, you know, like the whole Wolf of Wall Street kind of vibe.
Laura Ordile:Yeah, because it's very much that leadership energy of hey, we've got to push, we've got to get it done, we've got to move in that energy. And what's happened is it's shifted from Capricorn into an air sign which is Aquarius, and so it's moved into this light energy of oh, let's network, let's communicate, let's talk to all the different people, let's lighten up a little bit, let's maybe volunteer over here. How can we make this a better way? And, if you've noticed, technology is really, really amping into all the new things that are just it's speeding up more and more and more, and that's a big part of Aquarius.
Laura Ordile:But what's happened with people is, for a lot of people, they've come out of it and now they're in this new energy and they feel like either two things are happening they're going. Oh my goodness, I feel so much better, I feel lighter, I feel like I can breathe again, I feel like I can make some wonderful choices without all the pressure. But what's happening for other people is they're going? Oh my gosh. Is they're going? Oh my gosh, I am feeling so untethered. I'm not grounded. I don't know what's happening. I don't know which way to turn. I feel confused. I don't know when you're free, flying up here and it's like, oh my gosh, you don't have your feet on the ground anymore.
Laura Ordile:It can be very disconcerting for people and so they're feeling like one of those two ways that I find when I talk to most people yeah, how can I work with that energy to feel okay? The people that are like light and airy and feeling good, that's great. Make sure that you do jump into that. At the same time, bring in a little grounding. Make sure that you're not too far out in lava land and the thought process you know ground a little grounding. Make sure that you're not too far out in lava land and the thought process you know ground a little bit. We're meant to function in all four energies every day. Every day, it's like a car with four tires. If you have one that's all pumped up, you're going to limp along. If you have one that's a flat tire, you're not engaging with at all, you're not going anywhere.
Jennifer Walter:You're not going to manage to move through your life in a way that feels okay but this yeah, this is very much true like when I speak to one of my best friends, like I'm like, yes, change, transformation, woo, all the new things. And I'm like and she's like, yeah, but she will. Like she feels queasy and like, and maybe for a closing note, I feel this season, right now, with Aquarius and Pluto, yeah, those people have a harder time than maybe the air sign. So we're like this is our jam. So how can people who are not feeling like yes, this is the best time ever, like support themselves?
Laura Ordile:Engage in balancing all of those energies in yourself. Do something in all of those every day. If you're feeling really emotional or you're feeling like you're not expressing emotion enough, get in the water, connect with water and allow yourself those 20, 30 seconds to feel and emotion. And you know, life is kind of like a roller coaster and we're meant to be in constant motion and flow in moving. It's not about staying stuck in any one place, staying. You know, when you think about that roller coaster, it moves with momentum. If it gets stuck down in this little well down here of feeling too much or thinking too much or doing, you're not moving, you're not progressing, you're not allowing the flow of things to move through you. So we're supposed to do all of those. If you need and you feel like your head is all clogged up or there's a fog or something like that going on and you really just can't think or you can't express yourself, sit down and write for free. Write for five minutes, turn on some classical music, write about whatever. Write about the fact that you feel silly writing, it doesn't matter. Write it out. Excuse me, but do that and do it every day.
Laura Ordile:Communicate with someone in some way, whether it's yourself or someone else. Communicate, bring in that emotional realm. Watch a movie, one that makes you laugh, one that makes you excited, one that makes you cry, whatever it is for you, just so you have that emotional reaction to something. We're getting water, fire. Move your body. Move your body and say the thing. And say the thing. Be blunt, be direct in kindness, but be direct. You know, you don't have to hold back all the words that you need to be speaking. Speak your truth. You are meant to. We go out into the world to be useful in some way. Be useful in some way. I don't care if it's getting up and making your bed, even a little bit. You have accomplished something Awesome. Get outside and literally connect with the earth. If you can Barefoot, if you can yeah, earthing, earthing Do the earthing thing. And if you can't find another part of that earth, whether it is moving into leadership, feeling like, oh, I can step out in this way a little bit somehow, or if you're feeling like you really need to be secure in yourself, get some money and put it under your pillow or put it in a coffee can or put it somewhere where you know where it is that makes you feel like, okay, I have a little bit of money right there in case I need it, I'm good. You'll be amazed when you have those things that you're kind of you just do it, just do it. Or go buy yourself the next level, the next luxurious. You know, instead of the $7 champagne you buy the $15 champagne.
Laura Ordile:Yeah, Treat yourself in a way to something. Yeah, do something every day. Wear the good clothes. Yeah, yeah, wear the good clothes. Use the good china. What are you saving the lotion for? You know it's going to go bad and so use it, open it up and use it. And it's so hard sometimes for people, especially if you have grown up with any of like those subconscious things, and that's a whole nother conversation to work on. But if you have those things that you might not have enough or you've got to, you know build and unfortunately we just went through a time where that brought a lot of that to the surface. You know, coming going into lockdown, not having toilet paper, only being allowed a little restricted to how far we go leave our house you know being constrained and stuck, and am I going to run out of anything?
Laura Ordile:or what's with that insecurity of it all? All of these things could have kind of clicked and come into instigating the line of something in your subconscious, your subconscious soul. Allow yourself to kind of really function in some small way with everything and engage in some small way with every one of those elements every day that sounds like a very good challenge, and if you're still listening to us hammering on about astrology, do this for a week.
Jennifer Walter:Let us know in the comments how you're doing, what you're doing. If you're like every of the four signs of the four elements is like what you did for each element of the like for each day, let us know. Um, and it's a good reminder, I'll join a challenge too. It's a very good reminder to keep things balanced and in flow. So, laura, before we head off, let us know where people can find you if they want to know more about you and your work.
Laura Ordile:They can find me. My name is Laura Ordeal. It looks like we're dialed, but you can find me at lauraordecom and that I'm on socials under my name as well. So Facebook, tiktok, instagram, youtube, and then I have a free group and you can actually in the free group there's some classes that I did on astrology that are in there still and you can go in there and get those, and that's under the Change Gang on Facebook, and I actually have a podcast called the Change Gang, so you can come listen to that as well.
Jennifer Walter:Perfect. We're going to link all that in the show notes, as well as the Progress Moon freebie you have, because I'm dying to know Before I let you off the hook. I always have one last question what book are you currently reading or what audiobook are you listening to?
Laura Ordile:Oh, you know, I just finished this amazing book and I'm probably going to read it again. It's called the Reconnection by Dr Eric Pearl, and it was incredible. It's absolutely incredible. It talks about healing yourself and others and it just takes it into a level that is so simple and others and it just takes it into a level that is so simple and yet so amazing. It's around energy work he chooses. He talks about why he uses the word energy but how it's a little bit different. So if you have the chance to, I would recommend that to anyone. Absolutely, go and listen. It's on Audible and you can get a hard copy. So either one.
Jennifer Walter:That sounds perfect. We're going to link it to you and it's going to go into the CineGround library if you're ever short on what to read next or I don't know. I'm sure, Laurie, you're also not just reading one book at a time, right?
Laura Ordile:No, I'm not. I actually am reading, and then I've got a. I've got a fiction book that I list out. If you walk in my house you will find a book. You know pretty much every. Yeah, I got a pile there and I got a pile there yeah, I have a lot and I'm in the middle of about seven of them. Actually, I'm probably reading about seven of them, so yeah, that sounds.
Jennifer Walter:Yeah, yeah, it takes one to know one. I love this, laura, thank you so much for being on the CME Grad with me.
Laura Ordile:Well, thank you so much for having me. It was a great conversation. I hope you enjoyed it.
