Scenic Route, Social Change and Mental Health for Tired Perfectionists

12 Nights of Magic: Tarot, Rauhnächte & Intentional Planning for 2026

• Jennifer Walter • Season 7 • Episode 112

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Tired of entering a new year already depleted? This 35-minute conversation is your invitation to something slower, softer, yet powerful.

Nadia Gabrielle returns to The Scenic Route to talk about the 12 Nights of Magic – her annual program that guides hundreds of participants worldwide through the liminal space between December 25th and January 6th. Rooted in the European Rauhnächte tradition, these nights create a portal where each day reveals the energetic theme of a month in the year ahead.

In this episode, we explore:

  • What the Rauhnächte actually are (and why they're more than Instagram witchcraft aesthetic)
  • How to use tarot or oracle cards for year-ahead planning without making them "tell you what to do"
  • The power of street cleaning (literal and metaphorical) before crossing into a new year
  • Why some months show up as literal "NO" cards — and what that protection actually means
  • Real stories: When pulled cards predicted the exact energy of months ahead (Jennifer's viral January, her creative drought in April-May)
  • Wish fulfilment practices backed by participant feedback spanning years
  • The radical permission to do nothing: why "it's safe to potter" might be the most revolutionary advice for burned-out women

This isn't a course. It's not homework. It's permission to breathe.

Whether you go full ceremonial with candles and altars, or just pull a card each morning with your coffee, the 12 Nights of Magic meets you exactly where you are.

Perfect for: Perfectionists, overthinkers, oldest daughters, women who've been the rock for everyone else, anyone craving a year-planning practice that feels like self-trust instead of strategy.

Listen now to discover how a centuries-old tradition can help you enter 2026 lighter, more aligned, more yourself.

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Jennifer Walter:

Last December, I pulled Oracle cards for every month of 2025. April and May both said the very same thing. No. Of course, I had no idea what that meant at the time. I was working through something called the Raunechte. The magical 12 nights between Christmas and New Year. It's an ancient European tradition that marks the space between the solar calendar and the lunar calendar year. It's a portal, a threshold. Those 12 nights, each one holds the energy of a month and the year ahead. And on each night, you send a wish to the universe to work on your behalf. If you join me for this conversation with Nadia Gabrielle, you'll discover how to work with the live with this liminal time as a portal into your year ahead, and why some of the most difficult cards end up being your greatest protection. And of course, the exact practice that helps hundreds of women enter a new year feeling lighter instead of loaded down with resolutions they'll abandon by February anyway. Maybe you're tired of the way we're supposed to plan for a new year. All the productivity hacks and wasn't bored. For me, they just feel more like a chore these days. And maybe you're ready to try something different. This is witchcraft without the Instagram aesthetic. This is magic, as normal as it gets, as grounded as it gets, and as real. In the next 35 minutes, you'll understand exactly how the Rao Nechte work, what makes them so potent, and how to start preparing now. Even if you've never pulled a card in your life. By the time we reach December 25th, you'll be ready to step through the portal. There's a different way to think about mental health. And it starts with slowing down. Sometimes the longest way around is the shortest way home. And that's exactly where we're taking the scenic route. Hi, I'm Jennifer Walter, host of the Scenic Rad Podcast. Think of me as your sociologist's sister in arms and rebel with many causes. Together, we're blending critical thinking with compassion, mental health with a dash of rebellion, and personal healing with collective change. We're trading perfectionism for possibility and toxic positivity for messy growth. Each week, we're exploring the path to better mental health and social transformation. And yes, by the way, pretty crystals are totally optional. You ready to take the scenic route? Let's walk this path together. Nadia, welcome back to the scenic rout podcast.

Nadia Gabrielle:

Thank you, and thank you for having me again.

Jennifer Walter:

I know you're probably the winner for coming under the podcast close off.

Nadia Gabrielle:

I love it. There's a part of me that really loves to hear them. I appreciate it.

Jennifer Walter:

Contrary to the other conversations we had, we're we're gonna talk more Woo today. And not the the shiny Instagram aesthetics, but the practice. Because you have something you're re-run, you're actually running a VU, I don't know, Woo program, or however you want to call it the 12 Nights of Magic. And we're gonna like, I don't know. I'm a longtime fan. It's always uh you're a lifer.

Nadia Gabrielle:

You're you could you could run it yourself. If I ever need to take a break, you can just take over.

Jennifer Walter:

Tap me in, Coach. Tap me in. No, but it's kind of like my perfect, yeah. It's a perfect concept. So we're gonna talk, we're gonna talk about this. Um but I don't know. I've it's I always when we talk about witchcraft, we always kind of like get these weird ideas of I don't know, I don't know, coin and spells and sage and whatever's not. But I don't know, we've talked about this before, I know. Like, what does witchy mean to you? Like, you have a like a completely different kind of way of going at this.

Nadia Gabrielle:

Yeah, it's I was thinking about it before we started talking, and it's I just couldn't come up with an answer because it's just not something that I ever think about because for me, it's just the way I grew up. Um, and you know how people like that's just what what qualifies as normal to you. So I was raised in a household where sure we were level-headed people and doing normal, normal people things, but also when you had a headache, you got a rose quartz to put on your forehead, and when you had normal things, right? And when you had something going on, there was always one aunt or the other sort of chiming in, going, but have you done the cards? And that's just how it was and how it still is. So uh for me, you know, when you were talking about Instagram aesthetics, it's just like a fancy flat lay of crystals or the like is just so far from anything I I would ever even think about. Uh, in fact, some something I can uh share from directly from the source, the source being my aunt. Um, she said to me um a while ago that that is in fact something that we're really moving away from, where things are getting more uh Fienstoff, like subtle for my non-uh German speakers, and so there's really no need uh for a closet full of crystals, unless, of course, that is your jam, in which case, wonderful, you do you.

Jennifer Walter:

So I mean they're pretty bidam, like fair enough. But it's interesting though, right? Like we I grew up with a mom who was very into astrology, but that was like as far as it got, really. Which is all for some, it's already some degree of woo, which I get. Um, but like looking at cards and things, that that really wasn't that that really came later when I was like 14, 15, 16, when I was like, what is this tarot? What is that?

Nadia Gabrielle:

Oh you and I are in I think in the generation of uh Pluto and Scorpio, right? So it's like 10 years. I think it's about nine or ten years that that generation has the Pluto and Scorpio placement, if I'm not mistaken, and we're just basically we are these people who no matter how we grew up, we will it just attracts us. It just comes to the book. Yeah, we will find a way. Yeah, exactly. So for me it was early on, and then you just I mean, how did that happen?

Jennifer Walter:

How did you uh like I don't know, it started with a book, as like most of the things I ever did in my life, it started with a book. Um I don't know, it was a book. Book of shadows. It was not a secret that I know because we were already like side-eyeing that one when I I love it. Um you're like, I already know all of this secrets of the universe stuff. Baby, we're not like give me some oust or crowding. Um no, but it kind of it probably started a book. I don't even remember, but I remember doing the first kind of things, uh, kind of reading, like I don't know. Yeah, I guess you can call them readings, but it was just more or less baby Jen having no idea what she was doing. And um, and I remember like people looking at me like I I don't know, like I read their soul to some degree, right?

Nadia Gabrielle:

And it was like interesting, but and again, it's not really which you probably did because you're also a projector, and I know your card a little bit. So it's it's not far from reality that that's what happened.

Jennifer Walter:

Yes, but it soon came the misconception of oh, ask the cards what I'm sure what I what I'm supposed to do. And I'm like, yeah, that's not I don't know if the cards work like that, but it's not that's that's not how I work because I know I think you know best, and maybe the cards can help you like find the answer for you personally, but I don't see like oh the cards told me this, and I'll be like, you know, by the amount of towers and nine of swords that I had, like I should be dead by now, so it's good, you will live.

Nadia Gabrielle:

And sometimes it's as simple as like you get the reading or you do the reading and you see the cards, and you're like, uh, and then that shows you what you really wanted and what actually your true desire is and what your true inner compass is saying. Um yeah, so it's interesting how it works sometimes.

Jennifer Walter:

Yeah, and it's also like nice, it kind of fits into um what you said that it was the way you grew up with and for others probably would say, Oh, that's a bit of woo or a lot of woo. Oh, yeah. It was just normal, right? And that's also how I see like magic. Like I was just um talking to someone as well on that, and they said, Oh, like it's like do like it's something, oh, you like doing magic. And I'm like, I don't I don't really necessarily see it as doing magic rather than me tapping into it because it's always there, it doesn't it's just nothing manifest when I do it, excuse me, it's just Jen being magical.

Speaker:

There is exactly hello we've met.

Jennifer Walter:

There's no doing involved, no, but magic, like or whatever you want to call it, it's always there. You can just decide to tap into it, walk through it, whatever you want to call it.

Nadia Gabrielle:

I understand. I I always felt that way about I used to be a yoga teacher, and I felt that way about yoga a lot. When people would ask me, like, oh, are you still doing yoga? I was like, Well, I understand, of course, what they were saying, and and the the most that you kind of know if you're not super into the system is just the physical. So, of course, you would phrase it that way. But to me, it was like, Well, yeah, like I I was doing a lot of yoga the other day when my laptop got stolen and I didn't like break down into a puddle of tears. That was pretty yogic of me. Um, but yeah, it's it's just more a way of just existing, and I think the more that you're tapped into something, the same even with human design, um, the less I kind of it just takes up almost zero mind space. It's not like something I worry about.

Jennifer Walter:

True. It's really interesting too. You like the yeah. I mean, now with the yoga, we we pack it, we repackage it in call it resilience. Which is fair. So, but I want to bring the conversation to what we uh promised before, before you before we gotta, I don't know, it's probably we're five seconds away from having a sex in a city reference and then drifting into oblivion somewhere.

Nadia Gabrielle:

Like you're not gonna do this to her today. Not today, Nadia. It's okay.

Jennifer Walter:

You have my full permission. It's okay. It's okay. Or like this, we're we're not calling nothing. It's not called the highway. It's uh has a podcast, it has a purpose. But like one of I feel the um so we really want to talk about the you the program you're running, the Twelve Nights of Magic. Um so the maybe people need to know the 12 nights refers to the that kind of magical, mythical time between Christmas and New Year. And in German we have this lovely word for it, it's called raunechte. Um, I don't think the English language has a it doesn't exist because it's not a part of the the tradition or the culture. Exactly. Yeah. So, like for someone who's never heard of it, how how would you describe what kind of happens energetically across those 12 nights?

Nadia Gabrielle:

Well, I mean, what happens in the 12 nights stays in the 12 nights. But here's what I can say. As you know, as you well know.

Jennifer Walter:

Um unless you follow an audience or my Instagram channel and we're always like, oh, look at what I pulled today.

Nadia Gabrielle:

Um I mean, very simply, the 12 nights are just the the difference between the number of days in the solar calendar versus the number of days in the lunar calendar, and it happens at a very specific point in the year, as Jen said. So, right as the old year or the current year ends and the new year begins. Um, and the way that I refer to it most often is a portal because it carries as this kind of like little package of days, it carries such potent um energy. And then each of the 12 nights carries its own energetic theme and highlights a different topic, and then is connected to the year ahead. So when we work with that portal energy, it's really cool because we get to uncover what's basically like a little preview or a movie trailer uh of the upcoming year for us personally. So there's there's a whole thing, I'm not gonna get into it. I call it the DBR daily based ritual that guides you in revealing essentially your personal energetic themes for the year ahead using the cards, which we can use whatever you'd like. It's not an Oracle course, it's not a card reading course, none of that. Uh, in fact, it's not a course at all. Um, so you just bring what you're comfortable with. Um, I do make suggestions, but in the end, you can do as you please. Uh so that's a really integral part. However, many, many more parts. Um, so then before you get started, and you obviously know this, there's a there's almost like a pre-game, pre-game of 12 nights, where's there's this cosmic invitation almost. And I say these things and it sounds like it's just random stuff that I made up, but again, it's just the energetic sort of the prompt of the moment, like the energy of the moment, and you either sort of jump onto that surfboard and go with it, or you choose not to. It either is fine. But there is that particular moment prior to the 12 nights where there's a preparation period because the 12 nights, the way I think of it, is kind of like the eye of a needle, or it's yeah, a portal as we're that we're walking through. And we don't want to we're not able to walk through that um when we're all bogged down and and burdened and and carrying all sorts of heavy baggage from the present year. So we want to enter it unburdened and feeling as light as possible with our hands open, right? Not like carrying the clothes.

Jennifer Walter:

A lot of people are like, that resonates with many, many, many people right now because we're like 2025, what a shit show.

Nadia Gabrielle:

And especially right now, as we're recording, I don't know when this is coming out, but as we're recording this, we're in the throes of a brutal Mercury retrograde. And I think everyone's just like just at the point of like, okay, like, okay, well, well then. We're next, next, next. Um, and so that's what the preparation is about. I call it street cleaning, which can take many forms. So it can be actual cleaning, of which I happen to do and tend to do a lot.

Jennifer Walter:

So yeah, you know that throwing stuff out, I don't donating.

Nadia Gabrielle:

You I remember you had a whole list. You did a big declutter last year, I believe. I do that as well. I wash my curtains, I go through my cabinets, I recycle like all the things. So it's physical, but it's also metaphysical. So it's settling affairs. Another thing I pay all my outstanding bills, even if I didn't have to, like even if I could wait until January, I just want to get that sorted. I make my last orders, last investments. I want everything settled. Um, and it's kind of like 12 nights is like its own little universe. It's the 12 night cinematic universe. Oh it really is, and I couldn't possibly cover everything, um, especially this year, because I have some fresh new elements I'll be introducing. But one thing it's gonna be really fun. And I have to also pace myself a little bit because I want to do everything, and then I'm like, wait, people could like it's also the holidays, like we don't have there's only so many things we can do. Um, but there is one thing I do want to say is there's a really gorgeous part, there's the wish fulfillment element, um, where there's a practice in 12 nights that you get really clear on your desires, and there's kind of a specific way we go about it, but essentially it's um you give them to the universe to tackle for you, and then the feedback I get uh in the coming days, years, not years uh coming days, but weeks, months, sometimes years, of just uh what happens with those wishes. Uh it's I mean, it's not called 12 nights of magic for nothing, it's really just so fun. And yeah, so there's uh there's more, there's a lot more with changing daily themes and and little rituals, but um, as I said, those are those are really voluntary and you can decide how much you want to lean into that. Maybe today you're having a day that there's more going on, there's nothing else you really need to do. You kind of stick to your daily base ritual, you get that glimpse into your 2026, and um yeah, that's that's the gist of it. I hope I did a good job explaining.

Jennifer Walter:

Yeah, no, like I for me being on the receiving end, yeah, it was just always so nice to have these emails pop in, and I mean there were I don't know, there were day, there were 12 nights magic where I did like the full monthly and others where I'm like, nah, I'm just gonna stick to like the bare bowl, like their essentials right now, like all, but yeah, it's really it was always just having it's just nice to have this rem this reminder in my box of this little ping of like, oh yeah, um I'm gonna do the cards tonight, I'm gonna slow down, do some deep listening, having this ritual moment, a bit of fire, a bit of burning, a little bit of catharticus.

Nadia Gabrielle:

It's a really like, even if that's the only thing you do. And I've had 12 nights cycles that I was traveling, or like I'm I'm on a plane here, and then I'm here for a night, and I would just have my little tea light that I would bring with me, and like a little travel deck of cards, and that's all I had, and maybe a little rose water spritz that was really for my face, but I used it to cleanse the space, and that's kind of as bare basics as I got. And then I have, you know, where I'm at home and I have my little altar and I have all the things, which I'll post all of this on on my Instagram because I get excited. Um, and it's and it either is fine, right? It's not, as I said before, it's not a course, it's not a class. In fact, it's yeah, my last thing that I do in the year because I do courses and classes, and and those do come with here's homework, here's things to do, here's tasks, here's deliverables. And I just love that kind of exhale at the end of the year of there's really nothing you have to deliver here. You can make this as bright and full and fun as you want, and you can also just chill and just just do as you please. And there's nothing expected of you here. Um, that I really enjoy.

Jennifer Walter:

I remember it wasn't last year because I hadn't I was traveling and hadn't had the time, but two years ago, you you have made the invitation that we can do a live reading with someone in the group, like read each other's cards. That was so fun, and I remember we're still Instagram friends. Like oh, I love it. Commenting every now and then on each other's posts and things, like yeah, so it's still really nice, still like there's a strong community vibe, which I also really like. So, hey, if you look back at your cards uh at your 12 Nights of Magic 2024, um, where you led the cards for this year. Do you have any insights or revelations if you share with us?

Nadia Gabrielle:

Yeah. I was just talking to my mom about that, because of course my mom does it. Like, this is again, this is now we've gone global because there's people all around the world, you know, there's like people all the way to New Zealand doing 12 nights, but this is very much sort of what we just do. And so even when my mom and I throughout the year we have a conversation, it's like, oh, actually, what were your cards for this month? Like, let's just double check what's going on here. So we were just talking about it, and oh my, I checked my cards, and I will say, in hindsight, uh, this year in particular, I mean, just I'll tell you about mine, but also just the feedback from participants has been nuts. Like depending, of course, on what decks people use, sometimes they turn out to be incredibly literal, the messages, and sometimes they're more symbolic. And then in hindsight, you're kind of like, oh whoa. Uh, what can what I can tell you about mine is that for sure the two months that the cards indicated were going to be a challenge. Well, they did in fact uh end up being incredibly challenging. And I can just see that I was able to see that. I knew that in advance because I could see it when I looked at the overview of my full 2025 that I got during the 12th nights 2024 last year. Uh, even just looking, I didn't, you don't need any sort of acumen or any sort of skill with card reading, really. What's it's best if you choose a deck that you that you vibe with, but even just looking at the colors of the cards, like not even reading the words or looking up the symbolism, these two months were just incredibly dark compared to the other cards, which were like bright and friendly and sunny. So I kind of knew what was coming. Uh, it still knocked me out, but I did have that kind of heads up. And then uh the month that I had my best, sort of most prosperous, brightest cards, also some of my favorite cards personally, did indeed also turn out to be uh the highlight of the year so far for me. And then just practically speaking, I really do I always incorporate it into my planning. So there's, um, I will look at okay, what's what's kind of the narrative that's being told here? Looking at the whole month, like from January to into spring and so on. What is a good month to take a break? Uh, what and then I'll plan my vacation then. Or I had one month that the cards were like, go be near water, just whatever you do, woman, just be close to water. And I honored that and I made sure that I had that, whether that was a waterfall or a lake or a salt path. So sometimes it can just be like very kind of yeah, literal like that, or um, actionable, I should say. So, what was your experience if you'd like to share? I know that you had a few months that were like well.

Jennifer Walter:

I had some interesting few months. And I surely had like the tower was crumbling, like for sure. But it was interesting when I pulled them in December. Like, I um so I have several decks I use, and depending on kind of like inspiration and what speaks to me on the day I pulled them. And I worked with one Oracle card deck that has like um also like I don't know, different kind of oracle sentences and stuff. And for two months in a row, I pulled the literal card no. No. And I'm like, hmm, interesting.

Nadia Gabrielle:

I don't know why April and May is gonna tell me no. What is that no about? It's like it's really like you're getting a trailer, but you're not getting the full story.

Jennifer Walter:

Yeah, I was like, okay, April and no. And April and May will be no, but I have no idea what this no could possibly be about. Um, and so for me, January, February were really, really intense. Like I had a few things that went viral on social media, and that was like a lot. And then I really took a break, um, intentional break, and then the April, May, the no months, that was kind of like the not so intentional break. Like, I I was I was well, but I couldn't, like, I have not recorded a podcast episode during the entire April and May. Like I wasn't, I wasn't possible, like it, I wasn't it just I just couldn't. It was literally just no, no further explanation. It was just no. Yeah. And and then I think in July, when I was looking through, kind of like did a half-year check-in and went through my Fablet's magic cards. I was like, oh, that's no surprise that we had the no there, because it was just literally like a creative lull.

Nadia Gabrielle:

But isn't it also heartening? Like, even if it's challenging cards, because I get this question often from participants, especially those joining for the first time. Usually, people when they join once, they're like, I'm in for life, like I'm in for as long as you'll do this. But for the first time, and they're like, Wow, I've had my my second month in a row of really challenging cards. Like, how do you deal with that? And I just always think, well, reality is gonna be reality anyway, whether we have the cards or not. Like this, this it the it's not the cards. It's gonna happen, it's gonna happen. It's not really this is uh basically giving you a little heads up, and also it's heartening, though, to look back and go, oh wow, that does line up. And and I did do the right thing by saying no and by just saying, you know what? That podcast is gonna have to wait for a moment. Not that you had a choice. I imagine like when I'm in those spaces, I'm like, well, it's not like I I could make myself do it at the moment anyway.

Jennifer Walter:

Yeah, or even sometimes when you're like, I don't know, I'm not sure between two choices. And sometimes you are, you're like, I could do this and I'll be fine, or I could this. Then I don't know, I would go over uh or do I don't know, I would do another card spread, or I would pick up the 12 knights of magic card and just be kind of like, okay, there was um there was some I had some intuition, I had some inner guidance when I pulled this card. So can I take this into consideration? Do I want to take it into consideration? Because it's not someone else telling me what to do.

Nadia Gabrielle:

Yeah, it's you, and what I like about it is it's you, you yourself in your most detached moment because you weren't when you do a card spread for yourself in the moment, and I have done many, you're kind of like right, you're already attached to some outcome, or you're already like, well, I want this and this to go this way, so I'm hoping the cards are gonna give me that way. Do that, and then it's like no, yeah, the cards are surprised, it's the moon. Um, but when you do that in that 12 nights of magic window, it's kind of like you're you're detached from it. You can just do that from that kind of space between space and time where you're not yet in the thick of whatever that month brings, and you get that glimpse, and you don't even it's gonna reveal itself like the whole picture, as I always say, it's gonna get painted as we as we keep going. Uh but I like that it's like it's almost like the most the most um like pure insight that you can get without you sort of starting to interpret. And I like there's one um there's one participant who's been doing it many years. I believe she was actually probably from the very beginning, she's been doing it. And what she did last year, and she shared it and she gave me permission to share, was that she would just sort of free flow right about the cards she got in the moment, and just kind of here's what I'm seeing, and here's like the energetics of that, so that when you're then actually living through that time, you have that, and again, it's that kind of pure interpretation where you're not already swayed in one direction or the other, or you have loyalties, or you have certain things that you really want, and that this is really like grading, and uh so I I really like that. I like thinking about it that way.

Jennifer Walter:

Yeah, like yeah, that's very beautiful. Also kind of like circling back to, and I think this might be helpful for someone who is like, maybe I want to join this year, like what you said about oh, I'm not sure, like all like I don't know, if I get like dark cards or bad cards in air clothes, where I'm like, Well, I mean, I didn't take the no card as like a bad card, no is a very empowering word, right? If you say no, like then I don't know, it's very uh an act of resistance a lot. Um and protective, like it can just be a protective and I don't know. Sometimes it's also comes from if you're new to this, you have these. I don't know, I feel especially with with the tarot, you have like death or the tower, and you're like, oh my god, the death card. But it's like, well, yes and no, right? It just changes. And when I had a tower, I wasn't really like, oh my god, and like everything is gonna like crumble and like everything like crumble into misery, but it's like, well, I don't know. It's it's actually a good thing that we're gonna demolish what was not meant to last anyway.

Nadia Gabrielle:

And I mean, none of these cards are good or bad, right? It's there's always even the death is a rebirth in itself because what else is so uh I will say this you are giving the very wise sort of advice by saying, you know, there's like it's a good thing, and I will now give the kind. Yes, exactly. So I will also say that it has happened in the past. If I had a few months, like it's up to you what cards you use. So you just put that tarot deck away, baby, and you just take out some angel cards, and they're not gonna they're not gonna tell you that everything's gonna go to shit. They're just gonna be like an angel, angel of of just all the pretty soft uh handy cards, and then you're gonna be a little bit more. I do that, I do do it sometimes. If I'm in a moment, it has happened where I'm in a moment that I'm like, I can't, I can't handle it right now. I just need a soft, a soft, gentle uh insight.

Jennifer Walter:

Sure. You can also, yeah. I mean, you could also just do it with like uh a positive affirmation card take and then you have a different positive affirmation each month.

Nadia Gabrielle:

I had one girl, uh one woman who was doing uh she was pulling essential oils, and I love that thing because those carry their own frequency and their own vibration.

Jennifer Walter:

I mean, I do pull um Arazoma cards as well.

Nadia Gabrielle:

I remember you do yes, I remember you do that.

Jennifer Walter:

Oh yeah, yeah, I think you were the one who told me I should print um the Cine Grout uh digital um affirmation cards and make them real cards.

Speaker:

You've done by, not done yet. No, listen, you still have a month. This this can still get done. Okay, no, okay, that's a challenge.

Nadia Gabrielle:

Otherwise, there's always 2026.

Jennifer Walter:

Yeah. I'm like, okay, I'll have to I have to tune into whether this is like really stressing me out or or like challenging me. Challenge is okay, stressing out is not okay. Just other you just say no, Jen. Yeah, you just so look, I'm mindful of our time because before we recorded, we said we're gonna do this. So this is gonna be like a a breezy little 20 minutes, and now look at us. We're still 29. Like it's it's cool, it's fine, it's fine. But we did this very intentionally because this is the time where you just should get your glorious self outside, take a walk, get some fresh air, listen to us chatting about Woo stuff, and then come join us inside 12 Nights of Magic. Please. If you feel cold. Where can people find uh find everything so they can sign up?

Nadia Gabrielle:

Nadia Gabrielle.com slash 12 N O M. 12 Nom. Okay, I'm gonna we'll we're gonna link it in the show notes. It can be found. If someone wants it, it can be found. Yeah. If it's meant for you, it can be found.

Jennifer Walter:

Although you some do you still do that with the funny URLs with the funny number combinations?

Nadia Gabrielle:

Oh, I do it all the time.

Jennifer Walter:

I didn't do it.

Nadia Gabrielle:

It's really tricky to find something. It's gonna be it's like slash S23. Um I still do it, and you know, but not for this, because I wanted this to be sort of like simple. Makes sense. Thank you.

Jennifer Walter:

I I have one final question like because we're still more than a like we're still a few weeks away from 12 Nights of Magic. Yeah. And for anyone who feels like it's the world's very heavy right now and is waiting for 12 Nights of Magic, like what's kind of like one shall we call it magical truth, or I don't know, wish that you be like, oh, you know, this is like something small that people always underestimate, but it's really like you can really borrow this to steady yourself, and this is just really helpful. Do you have something for us?

Nadia Gabrielle:

Um, well, there's one, there's a book I read recently uh called The The Relaxed Woman by Nicola Jane Hobbes, who's a psychologist. And I I there's one sentence that wasn't even like a super descriptive sentence or anything, a short little sentence, but it stuck with me, it stayed with me, uh, where she said it's safe to potter. And of course, she's British, so she would say it much more nicely. She would say it's safe to potter. Um, but I just love that. And the whole book, I mean, is is really worth a read if it's meaningful. Okay. Um, but I think especially with, I mean, in the northern hemisphere, we're going into winter, which is a season of going inward and reconnecting to ourselves and slowing down, which I know is not always what's what's reflected to us in uh culturally or societally or just uh by what's around us, but uh traditionally it would be that, and I think each of us also feels that. Um so that uh just invitation of it's actually okay to to do that. It sounds so basic, and and I I sometimes when I read books like that, and I think to myself, it's such a sad sign of our times that there's a need for information like that to exist that tells us that it's safe to rest. Like, should that not be something that we intrinsically internally have?

Jennifer Walter:

Well, yeah, not anymore. It reminds me of a that I have a lot of coaching clients as well, who are like, well, when I tell them, like, let's breathe for a woman, they're like, Well, but that's not what I paid you for. I don't have time, I don't have time to breathe. Yeah, but when was the last time you actually consciously like did a few rounds of breathing?

Nadia Gabrielle:

It was a while. I was listening to this book. I'm sorry to interrupt you, let me just on the note of breathing. I was listening to the book, uh, which is how I know that she has the sweetest British accent. And she literally it was so funny. So I'm listening to this book. I'm like, yeah, this is great. I'm doing my dishes, whatever. And then she's like, Well, this is take a moment to just one minute of doing nothing. I'm like, expand in a moment. I don't have time for that right now. Like, I'm I'm like doing my laundry, and it's just and then and on the other side here. I am going, Wow, like it's crazy that as a society we need these books telling us it's okay to do nothing. Yeah, well, that's clearly where we're at because yeah, I got the posted, thank you.

Jennifer Walter:

Yeah, no, but it I mean it's a science of our times, and it is this just means like we're not, we're not like we're also in this society. We're like all the healers and spiritual people and artists and whatever, whatnot, like we're all in this together. We're also in this society, we're not exempt.

Nadia Gabrielle:

Think of our grandparents, that generation, yeah, and giving someone of that generation a book of like how to do nothing, which I think is a book that exists, and I think is a book that I read because I was drawn to it. And they would just be like, Oh, okay, because they didn't need that, they didn't have 24-7 on uh personalities and like an email arriving at any. Yeah, I mean, this is a different topic. I totally veered veered off track, and I do believe I attracted you, which I'm so sorry, but I did.

Jennifer Walter:

That's fine. It's just another like gentle nudge that it's soon time for 12 nights of magic, and we can all and it's safe to potter.

Speaker:

That's what I wanted to say. It's safe to potter.

Nadia Gabrielle:

That's my one takeaway, or one of many takeaways, but one big takeaway from that book. I just thought that was such a lovely sentence. It is.

Jennifer Walter:

Thank you so much for sharing this with us.

Nadia Gabrielle:

My pleasure. And thank you for having me. Thank you. It's always a pleasure.

Jennifer Walter:

And just like that, we've reached the end of another journey together on the Scenic Groot Podcast. Thank you for spending time with us. Curious for more stories or in search of the resources mentioned in today's episode? Visit us at scenegrootpodcast.com for everything you need. And if you're ready to embrace your scenic group, I've got something special for you. Step off the beaten path with my scenic root affirmation card deck. It's crafted for those moments when you're seeking courage, yearning to trust your inner boy, and eager to carve out a path authentically, unmistakably yours. Pick your scenic root affirmation today and let it support you. Excited about where your journey might lead? I certainly am. Remember, the scenic route is not just about a destination, but the experiences, learnings, and joy we discover along the way. Thank you for being here, and I look forward to seeing you on the scenic route again.

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Jennifer Walter | Swiss Sociologist & Mental Health Advocat

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